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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 13, 2010 6:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

A great tour has a continuity to it. A recognizable vibe and feel unique the music performed during that two or three week (or more) stretch of performances. Easily recognizable and differentiated from the shows preceeding and following.

So what are your favorite tours?

(Please, let's keep this to the music. Just because you enjoyed the parking lot scene and the soy frankfurters were good during the the east coast summer '85 tour, lets not pretend that the music was compelling...)

My favorites are:

Tour of the Pacific Northwest (Jan/Feb '68) - All of these performances have an amazing "Swing" sound. With the spring loaded ballroom floors, these shows must have been a ton of fun! This is a pure sweet-spot in the history of the Grateful Dead's performances.

Europe '72 - Not much more to say here. Did the band play a single bad note during this two-month stretch?

June 1974 East Coast - The band is playing very tight, jazzy performances with rather exciting set-lists; Des Moines, Louisville, Atlanta, Miami, Providence and Boston. The Grateful Dead are in a zone.

So what are you favorite tours (any years) and why?

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 13, 2010 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours? - most painful episodes?

Cliff,
Please consider the caveat that my first show was 4/28/80, & I'm only considering tours that I saw a few shows of...:

Jerry's comeback Dec '86 Oakland home town tour! Thank God partying with Dylan in July '86 didn't kill him. Include the JGB shows & Go Ahead - [Dinner w/Weir & Barlow beats tofu dogs in the lot] - an awesome, *magical* time to visit the Bay!

The boys, to me, continued to mature on through...

Fall '89 (to me that tour went thru 12.31.91) - good Unique shows, most every one.

For earlier stuff that I didn't have the privilege to see I trust your, dare I say, leadership in pointing to the cream of the pre-retirement break (no offense to others who point out excellent pre-'80 stuff-thank you too!).

Yes, Summer '85 (you know my recent Cryptical remarks).

Summer '87 (non-Dylan) was a happy tour (Roanoke, Pitts, Alpine, Frost, Ventura) other than the indiscriminantors (spray-bottle people 'surprising' young kids, etc.).

God Bless us, the Grateful Dead Family, everyone.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZITS & ALL
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Now,in Summer '86 which was worse:
A. Short length of shows,
B. Jer's sickly playin (~losing the tempo), OR
C. Phil's lack of rumblin' in the Other One intro?

In '86, C. was most painful to me (e.g., http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-06-29.beyerM88.connor.76557.flac16, http://ia311025.us.archive.org/3/items/gd1986-05-11.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.81626.flac16/, http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-07-07.fm.miller.88176.flac16, http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-06-21.fob.schoeps.grace-szvetecz.gems.98673.sbeok.flac16)

Gimme the rumblin' intro...
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Spring '95 - Jerry's peripheral (diabetic) neuropathy: B'ham - no playin' - hands on top of guitar - during Morning Dew (& why didn't Donna come out & sing?)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dylan's on next week's "Pawn Stars?"

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Poster: user unknown Date: Sep 13, 2010 8:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Best? I don't know and don't really feel qualified to judge. April 1971 finishing out with the epic 5 day run at The Fillmore East has always struck me as pretty damn good though. I'm partial to 4/29 myself.

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 13, 2010 11:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Like you Cliff I find the '68 "Quick & The Dead Tour of Winter 1968 and Europe '72 at the top.

Also February-April 1969 has so many great shows in Vallejo, the Fillmore West and in Boston, to name just a few..

February through June 1970, along with the East Coast shows from November 1970 are truly amazing

December 1971, when Pigpen rejoined the band, all the way through May 1972 is probably my favorite period recording and performance wise.

I know most folks here prefer the Fall 1973 tour of November and December... and amazing shows they are. I myself like the good old summertime tour from 1973 the best though. That was a fun and interesting time to be alive back then...

I'm not any expert on eighties and nineties Dead, but I do really love the Spring 1990 shows. The band sounded great. I never venture much farther than that..

Anyways, great thread Cliff!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 13, 2010 6:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Bookmarking, thanks as usual Cliff.

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Poster: utopian Date: Sep 13, 2010 7:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Spring 69
Spring 77
Fall 79
Fall 83
Summer 89
Spring summer 90

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Poster: utopian Date: Sep 14, 2010 11:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Spring 69 so many legendary shows. I love to start and listen to several sequential shows and see what happens. There are lots of gems before and after the better know shows.

Spring 77 kinda too obvious for any others to state. Get past cornell for the stellar performances before and after.

Fall 79 one of my most visited eras 10-28-79 Rider, 11-2-79 fraklins and the end of NFA!, 11-25-79 jack straw, 11-29-79 eyes

Fall 83 Lots of gems, phil and jerry dueling leads, and punchy drummers creating a serious inner groove. 10-11-83, 10-14/15/83, 10-22-83.

Summer 89 from shoreline to greek there were some stellar tight shows. The band took on a whole new dimension of sound 8-19-89 is pretty top notch.

summer 90 had some tight moments, expo 6-9-90, 6-10-90

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2010 12:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

One great later tour that comes to mind that hasn't been mentioned yet is summer 82. OK, it's not the 60s or 70s, but still! Highlights: 7/31, 8/3, the two Alpine Valleys (particularly 8/7, which is DP 32), and 8/10. I think my favorites among those are 8/3 and 8/10. But the whole run seems consistently strong to me in high-energy early 80s style, with maybe 8/1 as the weakest, IMUO (In My Uneducated Opinion).

In regards to Cliff's stipulation that a "great tour" should have a particular vibe to it, I'd say the vibe is ...hmmm ... upbeat, happy summer dancin' music. Certainly there's a fair bit of speedy early 80s Cocaine Dead (MC's apt phrase, I think), such as the version below of Bertha-don't-come-around-here-anymore-to-use-up-my-stash. But the tour has a nice, sunny energy overall. Guess the band was enjoying it, too; at the end of this show, the last on the tour, Phil thanked the tourheads just before the encore for making it such a great tour. Nice gesture. (I was at that show; hadn't done the whole tour, though I wish I had, but hey, I'll take the thanks and return it ... it was my only B-day show :-) )

http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-08-10.sbd.miller.12453.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Sep 14, 2010 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Althearose - I'm right with ya. This was the first tour I thought of. 7/28 to 8/10 was a great period, especially 8/7 and 8/10.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I may have said "cocaine dead" at some point, but I'm pretty sure I heard it somewhere else first.

As for 1982: I was recently turned onto this year in a big way, haven't checked out any of the shows you mentioned though. I was really impressed by 10/9 and 10/10 (10/9 has an outstanding eyes of the world) as well as 9/17. I'll have to load up my ipod with the year in the next few days. Lately I've just been listening to Winter '68 ad infinitum...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2010 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Yeah, I'm sure the thought has occured to others, too! Well, I like the 82 energy, though sometimes it's too much zip and too little jam. The shows you mentioned are some of my favorites for that year. I also like the MSG shows, 9/20 and 9/21, though I haven't heard the whole East Coast tour so don't really have an impression of the fall tour "as a whole." I've heard the Jamaica show, 11/21, and remember thinking it was a lot better than its reputation.

But definitely, check out 8/3 at least! Here's one source:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-08-03.sbd.miller.77196.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: billydlions Date: Sep 13, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I change my mind on this question frequently but right now I would narrow it down as follows:

5/21/74-8/6/74 is my favorite period. Not much to add to your description other than saying this is my favorite sound from Jerry's guitar. I just love how he bends those notes on Wolf!

8/19/80-9/6/80 would be one of the best runs in the Brent era. Brent had found his groove, the new songs matured and the band played at a high level at every show. Jerry's guitar playing is a little more aggressive with a harder sound than he had in previous years.

The 2nd European tour from 1981 (and the US shows right before) 9/12/81-10/19/81. Jerry's playing is creative, Spanish Jam is back and overall high energy throughout.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

The "3rd" European Tour is a fine example billydlions.

It's the very last consistantly well performed tour the band undertook, in my opinion, and it does have a rather unique vibe/feel to it. Quite different from the music that preceeds and follows. And it's probably the farthest that I go chronologically in listening to the Grateful Dead's catalogue ;)

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Poster: snori Date: Sep 14, 2010 2:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

You and I are in complete agreement on that Cliff. The Barcelona show is a stunning end of tour show, possibly the last great one. OK a bit of hyperbole, but what I wouldn't give for top quality release of it. Both versions here are no more than 4 stars at best.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2010 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

If you're looking at the US shows before the fall 81 Europe tour, consider 9/11/81, too! I just listened to both 9/11 and 9/12 the other day with the intention of figuring out which one I liked best, and decided to call it a draw. Maybe that's just me, but really, it's a gorgeous show. So don't let the 81-going-to-Europe-soon tour train leave without it :-)

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 13, 2010 6:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Agreed on early 68--among other things, it captures a unique moment in the band's evolution, and there's real show-to-show cohesion. I respect the 72 and 74 tours you cite, but neither gives me the warm fuzzies like:

October/November 1973 (which I know you too love, so I wonder why you left it out)

June 1976 (which has a freshness and tenderness that always gets me)

And of course I'm always happy to listen to most anything from May/June 1970 or May/June 1977.

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Poster: DEETS Date: Sep 16, 2010 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Fall of 1972 through America's Southwest. Great shows!

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Sep 13, 2010 10:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

i'm with you, utopian, on spring '69 - especially February.

this month has an unbelievable intensity that i think was rarely ever equaled. my favorite shows: 2/4, 2/7 (an underrated epic!), 2/21, 2/22, 2/27, and of course, the all-time classic of 2/28.

if anyone can tell me of a more energetic piece of (GD) music than the 7 minute jam at the beginning of 2/28's Lovelight, i would love to hear about it...

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I agree that early 1969 is one of the great "sweet-spots" in the bands history, but as far a tours go, by definition I wouldnt group the Dream Bowl shows or the Fillmore West stand in with the East Coast shows early in February, which certainly can be considered a bonafide tour.

Those East Coast shows do have their own vibe/feel, as the band polishes up the Dark Star suite in preparation for recording Live Dead. I too love both Stanley Theatre sets and agree about the off the hook energy there. They are underrated and worthy of more discussion here.

Both 2/11 and 2/12 are fantastic performances that share the same "bare-wires" intensity! And the two Electric Factory shows are dynamite as well. Although the sound quality of their sources is a bit muddy in my opinion.

I do wish the band would release more material from this time period. Performances from early '69 in particular really benefit from vault remastering...

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Sep 14, 2010 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

yes you've got me there...i guess i just have a hard time not grouping that whole month together in my mind as one big fireball of very hot jamming.

i really like the 2/12 show, but i'm not very fond of the 14th or the 15th (other than the wicked alligator jam from that show). the 14th to me seems to lack energy somehow...can't quite put my finger on it. the 15th suffers from too many cuts imo.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Sep 14, 2010 6:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours? East Coast, May 1970!!!

The east coast run in May of 1970 is to me one of the all time high water marks for the Grateful Dead. The electric jams are first rate, Pig is still in top form, and the new acoustic music is being integrated more seamlessly each night.

This tour, which centered mainly on universities but also included a well known and loved stop at the Fillmore East was the first tour where the "Evening with the Grateful Dead" format was rolled out. Although it is not as well documented as other well known tours like the 1972 European tour- some shows do not circulate, while others exist only as rather iffy audience recordings - what we do have is fantastic!!!

5/1, 5/2, and 5/15 are probably the best known shows of this tour but all of what circulates is worth checking out!!!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 14, 2010 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours? East Coast, May 1970!!!

Right on with May 1970! As unique (and great) as any tour in the band's history.

At this point I would also include the 5/14 Merramec College performance since its partial release as Road Trips III/3 and of course its also uber tragic that 5/7 M.I.T. is only available in horrendous sound quality. It's just a good as Alfred and Harper in my opinion. I wonder if it's in the vault...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 14, 2010 9:26am
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Great thread.It's amazing what a broad range is proposed. And it demonstrates how successfully the Dead changed their sound. Psychedelic blues boogie band > psychedelic jazz channelers of the universe > Psychedelic arena rock gods.

Also, to this point, only one person has mentioned 1977. Maybe it's time to revisit what some folks say are the greatest stretch of shows and see what we think now.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Sep 14, 2010 6:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I'm going with seasons rather than tours, but they match up well for the most part.

1. Late summer/Fall 72 - when you combine the jams and vocals, this is as good as it ever got. one could put 3 or 4 of these shows in the top 10 ever.
2. Fall 71 - hard charging, great vocals at times. and NFA > GDTRFB. laid the foundation for the great 1972.
3. Fall 80 - very tight when they weren't squandering away shows trying to make an album. Jer sounds great at times, and there are some outstanding set-lists there.
4. Europe 72 - clearly #1 or #2, but I've been on a 71&80 kick lately.
5. Summer 74 - the most interesting jams out there, imo.
6. Spring 87 - no, it's not the 6th best tour, but Jerry and the band made a monumental comeback, and they do play very well together. deserves mention.
7. Fall 73 - just a tad overrated imo, but 11/11 is the best show ever played, and we got that epic HCS.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Sep 13, 2010 8:33pm
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How about all of September 1972?! They are all unbelievable performances. Not *quite* as consistent as Europe, but I think the highs are even higher.

My favorite moment is the Dark Star > Cumberland Blues from 9/27,

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 16, 2010 4:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I'm with you there, I particularly like the run of shows from late July (7/25+26 aren't underrated per se, but would make a FINE Road trips...)running through September. Other personal favorites go to 8/21, 9/3, 9/24(!!), 9/28, then skip a bit later to 10/18/72. Just recently I started a big Fall 72 kick, busted out some 11/13, 10/28, 10/26, 11/26, etc. Got on a bit of a Philo kick.

I'm also big on Keith's first tour thru November 71. 11/15 is one of my all time favorite shows, possibly my favorite from 71.

I'm one of the few that just doesn't care for any of the pre-Keith stuff from 71. Within the exception of 4/5 and 8/14-15/71. Oh, and I can't forget 7/31. But the April Fillmore East run never gets much play with me, nor does Port Chester, or any of those college shows with all have the shorter material played well, but lose me with the predictable jams on Good Lovin at like every show. As well as the weird transitional period Other Ones (which are almost always redeemed by great early Wharf Rats, that's why I like 4/5 so much, and I do love 3/18/71).

Oh wow, it's really 7 am. I can't spend any more time rambling about my favorite tours and dates, I really should get to sleep. If I do now, I can get 8 hours sleep till I have to be at work at 4. Being a vampire is weird sometimes.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Sep 16, 2010 6:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I second the 7/25-26 road trips, and I do think those shows are underrated, or at least underrepresented.

What draws people to 9/24? The Dark Star > China Cat is cool and the transition is done well, but the dark star doesn't seem particularly special to me; should I listen again to that, or are there other highs in that show that I have missed?

The november 71 tour should be legendary, and indeed it is to many people. My personal favorite is 11/07, but the not fade away from 11/15 is better (although 11/07 has a better GDTRFB). And yeah, I almost never listen to the April '71 shows. Apart from the 4/28 and 4/29 hard to handles, and the 4/29 alligator jam, nothing particularly of note seems to have happened on those dates. However, I am an advocate of 8/6; I think it's even better than it's been hyped up to be. But take that with a grain of salt; I mostly listen to the H2H from that show :)

Right now I'm trying to decide whether I should fork up the dollars for the latest road trips. It looks promising, and I'm constantly trying to find good 80s shows (I'm one of those who things the selection is pretty sparse), but is it going to be worth the $?

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 16, 2010 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

"is it going to be worth the $?"

Only if they include Jer noodling "High Above Cayuga's Waters" during the take a step back before Tennessee Jed...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 16, 2010 8:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

'71 pre-Keith....not the Dead's finest hour in my book (though a lot of people like the "more rockin' short songs" approach).
But I love those "predictable" Good Lovin' jams! 4/25/71 gets me every time...and then the 4/26 version is totally different. You have to admit they're a huge improvement over those interminable 1970 Lovelights, drum solos aside....
Overall 1971 is a year I feel each month is better than the one before. April '71 gets pretty good from week to week, but August is much hotter (they should've waited longer to put together the live album!) - then when Keith joins they really hit the gas; it's like watching a caterpillar become a butterfly...

Fall '72, if we're speaking of 'tours', is split between three tours -
9/15 to 10/2 east coast,
10/17 to 10/30 midwest,
11/13 to 11/26 southwest (or mid-southwest or whatever you call it...interestingly, no trips to the southeast that year).
I'm so used to thinking in Dead "seasons" I've never given much thought to how much (or whether) these individual tours differ from each other. I have an impression of the jams becoming more intense, abstract, moody, 'darker' if you will (though a lot of that is the bass-heavy mixes in the later months). But would we notice if, say, 11/26/72 was switched with 9/16/72? As far as month-to-month changes, 12/31/72 has a lot more in common with 9/10/72 than it does with 2/19/73... Food for idle thought, perhaps....

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 18, 2010 2:26am
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I don't feel much like getting into all of it tonight, but there is one thing I've noticed about my own listening trends. It is funny how I used to be among those who can never express enough how great 1973 is, but oddly I rarely listen to much from the year these days. I guess it's because overall I've really cut down my GD listening quite a bit.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 13, 2010 8:08pm
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I am going to go with one from my time . The last consistent , well played ( at times staggeringly so ) , high energy performances of the Brent era .
The tour began on March 14 - 16 , 1990 at The Capitol Center in Landover, Maryland . The second show is already out as Terrapin Limited . It was Phil's 50th Birthday . The songs on that night showcase when Billy and Micky are locked in , then Phil comes around feeling frisky . First set honors go to Easy To Love You ! First time played since 9 - 3 - 80 . In the second set honors go to the post Terrapin jam , which would have its full fruition later in the tour . Two other breakouts in Maryland , Loose Lucy ( fun at this show ) last on 10 - 19 -74 , and Black Throated Wind , last played on 10 - 19 - 74 .
Next stop , Hartford, Connecticut on March 18 and 19 . The second set of 3 - 19 - 90 contains some jewels . Foolish Heart never hit on all cylinders , close a few times , like this one . This is my fav Brokedown Palace . Solid set .
Out west a bit for the third stop on the tour , Copps Coliseum , Hamilton Ontario on March 21 and 22 , In the interest of brevity all I will mention is on the 22nd the final/last Hey Jude was played . Last time played 3 - 1 - 69 . Some long forgotten 60's show .
Fourth stop was The Knickerbocker Arena in Albany , New York and we will focus on the first night , March 24 . This was one of the best shows of the ones I saw . I still listen to this one and almost the whole show ( Tenn. Jed , OMSN I pass ). The first 7 songs of set one are nailed . Even Walking Blues . You can feel the train picking up speed with each song . Set two left me on some higher place , totally spent , in a state of wonderful contentment . I can write pages on this set . The post Terrapin , Mind Left Body Jam is exquisite ( last played 10 - 31 - 84 , 371 shows ago ) . My fav Wheel and a NFA with punch , unhooked from Throwing Up , and jammed on it's own . And We Bid You Goodnight finished off the evening . You can find much of this evening on youtube . The boys played the Knick two more nights , some of which is on Dozing at the Knick . Then they pulled into Nassau Veterans Coliseum out on Long Island . I am going to stop here . There are a some more things to find from this tour . Have fun .

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03-19.prefm-sbd.sacks.1526.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-22.sbd.miller.107871.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-24.sbd.miller.107873.flac16

edit - Why not finish the Tour ? Only two stops to go .

The huge machine/monster/dragon that was 1990 Grateful Dead pulled into Nassau Coliseum on March 28th , playing also on the 29th and 30th. Nassau County was one of the worst spots to see the GD .( yellowjacket Meadowlands ? )Lots if chicken shit authority hassles combined with an intent to arrest as many heads as they could . But , that's show biz .
It's the 29th we will focus on . Branford Marsalis played with GD for the first time this night . They wanted it so bad , as they reached for the gold ring . Frustratingly so , they only held it for several minutes there , a song here . I am a Branford fan ( more his brother ) and it did work at times . It works big time in Bird Song , D/S and Lovelight . What Branford's presence did bring was a night where the six ( 7 w/ BM ) of them were really listening to each other . I am downplaying this a bit b/c I think it has the highest laurels , undeserved . As a GD show , it was pure , an highpoint of the year . Not 3 - 1 - 69 .
They were so close to something special on the 29th . The music could have been transcendent . It just frustrates me . Many regard this vary differently from me and treat this as milestone show .
Hot 'Lanta for three shows , April Fools , then the 2nd and 3rd . They finish the tour a bit ragged but still in fine form . From April Fools comes a first set To Lay Me Down that will surprise and please you . Baby Blue too . That is a 10 song first set as well . The second frame brings the China/Rider from Without a Net . April 2nd is probably the worst show of the tour . The poor quality of the sources may have a lot to do with it . Though the final Death Don't Have No Mercy was played . The last song on that tour was And We Bid You G'night . What a tour it was .

They were a 6 man ensemble that tour . Soon to celebrate their 11th anniversary as a band . The longest lineup in GD history . They could be counted on to put on a solid show and sometimes , with more frequency then in a long time , melt your face . There was a one-upmanship many times in the first set that you could feel between Garcia and Weir .
Lots of Brent tunes one this tour . His most assertive time on stage w/GD . Many of his songs leave me cold , though I liked Hey Pocky Way , Fantasy and a few others . This is the best they ever were in my time .

http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03-29.sbd.miller.26341.sbeok.shnf




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Poster: rabbseye Date: Sep 13, 2010 7:41pm
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thank you for the recall micah saw that tour from start march 1990 .BRENT IS AWESOME ON THAT TOUR

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 13, 2010 7:47pm
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Welcome and have fun .

I did not go to Atlanta , but what I did see I will take to my dying day as a wonderful time in my life . My last tour w/ the traveling tribe . So many good times .

Have you been lurking or did you jump right in ?

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Sep 14, 2010 1:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

Cliff, how much did you drink before creating that - oh so articulate - post? Please read your slop when you sober up. And the notion of you asking what people like, and why, is a fucking joke when you've allready defined what a good tour is. You contradict yourself - you ask people to share their experiences then let them know that their experiences are invalid in the same post. You are a joke.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 14, 2010 8:35am
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L&S - some free , hopefully helpful advice .
Another man's/woman's opinions are just that . Why do you take them so personally ? You , no one else takes the opinion in .
Let me cut all the bubble wrap away .
You and CH have had a beef for a long time .( Please , I'm sorry , I do not want to know the origin . ) This recent post of yours does not contribute anything , but a diminishment of comity among the forum .
Being ignored is possibly the most effective way to deal with someone whose writing - and make no mistake , that is all this is - is irksome to you . Your post begs for flame in your direction . Is that what you want ? Also , if you are in the forum , you know you picked a cruel line of attack that has nothing to do with your intended victim .
I have no beef with you L&S , nor will I .
Lastly , if you scroll down a bit you may notice a long post on a '90 tour without one snarky post . I wouldn't care if there was .

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Sep 14, 2010 2:57pm
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That is my point , exactly. I just have a problem with Cliff because he is the one that tells people 'just because you were there and had a good time doesn't mean it was a good show'. I understand that all we have is our opinions. I have strong ones, as you see. I just have never heard the 'you being there doesn't make it a good show' rap before. I find it to be the antithesis of the Dead experience, and that's why it bothers me.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:27am
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"you ask people to share their experiences then let them know that their experiences are invalid"

Where did I ask for anyone to share their experiences?

You are either a complete moron or you have very low reading comprehension skills.

Hey touch-head, I specificaly asked for peoples opinions on tours and requested that they not be biased by the fact that they attended the shows, because morons like you cant differentiate between a quality performance and a fun trip scene in the parking lot!

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:35am
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I didn't think Cliff's post was any more inane than any other post that's ever been made on this forum! To a certain extent, all such questions are a tad silly since something like the "definition of a good tour" is so subjective. But why call him names (e.g. drunken) when the rest of us are just as guilty?

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 13, 2010 8:01pm
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Thanks for the awesome thread so far! Y'all/we were thinkin' about some great times all at the same time.

Synchronicity!!!

I miss Brent to this day.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 13, 2010 8:31pm
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I consider the 15 show run between 11/12/72 and 12/31/72 to be the peak "tour" for the band,that would be the 10 southwest shows in Nov. and the 5 Cal. shows in December.During this run the band produced 10 brilliant versions of PITB,11/15 and 11/18 which I consider all-time versions,2 classic Dark Stars 11/26 and 12/11 and 3 classic Other Ones with 12/10 being an all-timer.The rest of their catalog was well represented with by my count 40 really well played songs.Weir's country songs were consistently smokin' and this seemed to be the high point for B.T. Wind.They turned in 4 fine versions of He's Gone and 4 nice Bird Songs.On 12/15 after Truckin' they do a really interesting,top flight 14 minute jam into Dark Star.To my ear the band were never sharper than this run,and never sounded quite as spacey again.

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Sep 13, 2010 7:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Grateful Dead's Best Tours?

I have always been a big advocate of the December 1971 East Coast Tour. The whole little run is blazing with Pigpen back and Keith learning his tones and sounds and already his playing is unique - Phil remarked once about the Ann Arbour shows being among thier best - the playing is fine and rounding into that Europe 72 sound we would hear in just 4 short months - this December run is also very nice in that SBD copies exist of most every show and the tapes sound fresh and mixed with a certain expertise - a large numer of FM versions exist which is always nice - the band is in high form and the singing and playing never sounded better - An early Christmas Treat!!! 3 samples to pick from - I always loved the show on the 6th best, but here you go...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.sbd-set2.miller.32304.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-07.sbd.miller.3375.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-12-14.sbd.cantor-diebert.23842.sbeok.shnf